SD pickup thoughts - Liberator & Screamin Demon

Discuss other gear: guitars, amps, FX

Moderators: guitarguy510, ned

LunatiBSW
Lynch Box
Posts: 854
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:37 pm
Location: Dallas

Post by LunatiBSW » Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:34 pm

pickups are like women, everyone has there preference. Alot of pickups are wound with certain eq's build in. SD has charts which displays the the level for b/m/t and the magnets give you more bite of course and pick up more harmonics. You wont know what you like till you try them
Amps:Bogner Überschall TJ / Krank bully (custom 35w) / Orange micro dark
CABS:Bogner Uberkab/Avatar Sig2x12 (v30/g12t75-dovetail joints) /Earcandy2x8 (ported)
*Click for deals*
http://bit.ly/lunatibswDEALS

GtrGeorge!
Lynch Box
Posts: 1672
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:30 pm

Post by GtrGeorge! » Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:03 pm

fwiw:
I really Love Bill Lawrence's pickups,,the originals..not the Lawrence USA..I thought they werent near as good.
Now Bill is making pickups again, I think under the name Wylde,,..you'd have to look it up.
I think Bill Lawrence is TRAGICALLY under-appreciatted.
To quote a friened of mine "Duncan wishes they could BUY an engineer like Bill Lawrence".
GtrGeorge

crushabud
RM20
Posts: 47
Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:44 pm
Location: lost in florida

Post by crushabud » Sun May 08, 2011 9:31 am

I have the JB/Jazz set also, and I've found that the JB sounds great in a mahogany-bodied guitar, but in alder it can sound too brash (for want of a better word)...

It's funny, but SD pups seem to be made for mahogany, DiMarzios seem to be made for alder...
objects that appear in mirror are not really there

Mister Joshua
RM100
Posts: 255
Joined: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:49 am
Location: San Antonio, TX

Post by Mister Joshua » Sun May 08, 2011 1:05 pm

I don't know about the whole "Dimarzio for alder and SD for mahogany" thing. That's new to me. I do know that i have used Dimarzios for years and in my opinion they seem to put a lot of their assets at the front of the sound. As a lead player that works for me since i rarely stay on a note for more than a second without doing something like feedback, vibrato, or turning the spotlight over to another instrument. I think SD has a lot of its assets on the sustain and tone end which is perfect if you plan to stay on a note or chord for a while. I do enjoy the JB/ Jazz combo as well as the JB/ 59 combo. I think that it is a matter of taste and how you intend to use the instrument. Both combos play really well with other gear and will provide a huge amount of tone and versatility. But beware of becoming a tone chaser. :mrgreen:

Peace, Joshua
Peace, Joshua

crushabud
RM20
Posts: 47
Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:44 pm
Location: lost in florida

Post by crushabud » Mon May 09, 2011 2:12 pm

Mister Joshua wrote:I don't know about the whole "Dimarzio for alder and SD for mahogany" thing. That's new to me. But beware of becoming a tone chaser. :mrgreen:

Peace, Joshua
I said the alder/mahogany thing out of personal experience; the Jackson Kelly I have @ the moment is alder, and I get the 'brash' tone I referred to. Years back, I had the same p/u (JB) in an SG, and it sounded great. I'm not saying this goes for all SD pups, just the JB. Seth Lover designed it from overwound Gibson HBs...

Hear you on the 'tone-chaser' thing! I used to stress about tone constantly, back in the day. Now I've gone in the opposite direction; sounds good, ok, let's play!
objects that appear in mirror are not really there

Shinozoku
Lynch Box
Posts: 1340
Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:48 pm
Location: Bristol, VA

Post by Shinozoku » Mon May 09, 2011 2:38 pm

crushabud wrote:I said the alder/mahogany thing out of personal experience; the Jackson Kelly I have @ the moment is alder, and I get the 'brash' tone I referred to. Years back, I had the same p/u (JB) in an SG, and it sounded great. I'm not saying this goes for all SD pups, just the JB. Seth Lover designed it from overwound Gibson HBs...

Hear you on the 'tone-chaser' thing! I used to stress about tone constantly, back in the day. Now I've gone in the opposite direction; sounds good, ok, let's play!
Correction, Seth Lover started the humbucker thing and inspired the overwound buckers that Seymour Duncan based the Jeff Beck off of ;) Same thing with the John Milner (a.k.a. the Jazz)
RM100M w/ Tung Sol 5881's
Blackface(self modded), Ultra Lead, SL+(out of commission), Ultra XL (self modded)
Vader 2x12 Cab
Edwards E-AL-128 with a Seymour Duncan JB

crushabud
RM20
Posts: 47
Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:44 pm
Location: lost in florida

Post by crushabud » Tue May 17, 2011 6:50 pm

Shinozoku wrote:
crushabud wrote:I said the alder/mahogany thing out of personal experience; the Jackson Kelly I have @ the moment is alder, and I get the 'brash' tone I referred to. Years back, I had the same p/u (JB) in an SG, and it sounded great. I'm not saying this goes for all SD pups, just the JB. Seth Lover designed it from overwound Gibson HBs...

Hear you on the 'tone-chaser' thing! I used to stress about tone constantly, back in the day. Now I've gone in the opposite direction; sounds good, ok, let's play!
Correction, Seth Lover started the humbucker thing and inspired the overwound buckers that Seymour Duncan based the Jeff Beck off of ;) Same thing with the John Milner (a.k.a. the Jazz)
Correct, sir, my bad! Got my Seth/Seymour references reversed...

I fall on my headstock...
objects that appear in mirror are not really there

khingpynn
Lynch Box
Posts: 843
Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:11 am
Location: Alberta Canada
Contact:

Post by khingpynn » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:13 am

Here is my experience...

Screamin Demon - great modded PAF tones with bright but not harsh top end and low end clarity and balanced mids... medium output... nails Lynch tone!

Custom Custom - Open and crunchy balanced with more mids overal and excellent clarity in the bottom... medium output. This pickup begs to play with JCM 800's... hangs in the Angus camp of big ballsy rock tones.

Invader - totally HOT huge tone, will distort the cleanest tones... fairly balanced with lots of teeth... lives for loud ruud mid to high gain tones. Sets up different than most pickups due to it's own gravitational pull.

JB- Hot PAF with lots of buzzey top end more mids and les bass... does not clean up well with volume backed off. Sounds wicked in a Les Paul thru any amp. Best for classic rock and some metal.

59 Bridge or Neck - Smoooooth and well balanced with medium low output. Neck is especially creamy!

Pearly Gates Plus - Bite that is not harsh, mids that have teeth, medium output... if you like pinch harmonics and the Screamon Demon does not float your boat then this pickup is "the one".

Slash Signature Bridge and Neck - well balanced with excellent detail. Some bite but very smooth with tons of sparkle. Bridge has the beer attitude but will appeal to cork sniffers. Neck is creamy with sparkle detail and the perfect classic PAF mids... like no other pickup I've played. Begs for play time with Plexi or any amp that delivers great detail... Soldano!

SALVAGED
RM100
Posts: 417
Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:12 pm
Location: IOWA

Post by SALVAGED » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:32 pm

I really like the Duncan Blackouts... they're active, but they're an easy swap from EMG's wiring clip. They're definitely more "open" sounding than EMG's... not as compressed. In that regard, they're more "passive" sounding...

khingpynn
Lynch Box
Posts: 843
Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:11 am
Location: Alberta Canada
Contact:

Post by khingpynn » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:55 pm

do the 18 volt mod to your fav EMG... makes them more classic bucker sounding... opens them up and softens the attack... great mod it you like that voicing.

Hamner1
Lynch Box
Posts: 1286
Joined: Sat May 29, 2010 10:53 am
Location: USA

Liberator & Screamin Demon

Post by Hamner1 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:36 pm

I've actually never heard a 9v hookup of EMGs (at least not mine). As soon as I got them I told the tech to wire them up for 18v. The Duncan Blackouts might be a cool alternative some day but for now I'm going to mess with passives, which leads me onto the project I finally got together.

Here is a shot of the guitar with the Screamin Demon.
Image

I invested in the SD Liberator pot as well so hooking up pickups and so forth would be a snap. I wired it up for single hum single tone. The neck humbucker & corresponding pot are there for appearance sake but not functional.

Liberator - I have now made my guitar a modular guitar. :lol: Very strait forward & the schematics Duncan has on their site are perfect even for the not so technically minded. Going forward I can't imagine going back to regular pots, unless the cavity will not accomodate the Liberator. The pot seems to have a dramatic change from the last 1/4 - 1/3 (say from 10-7) then it seems to be more tapered. As stated the junction platform makes this a large object for your control cavity. In fact to make itwork I had to butcher a traditional volume pot so I could get this to fit in the cavity of this guitar. It sits up higher the the other pots but this could be remedied by adding washers or a nut or 2 to the bottom side of the shaft.

Screamin Demon - Well it definately screams. Pinch harmonics are a breeze. The pickup is a little bright for my tastes in this guitar. But for the most part the amp can eq that out for more my taste. Also the tone pot does a pretty good job of gettingrid of some of the brightness with out getting mushy (at least until about 6 or 7 - anything lower & not so good tone) I think this would be beasty in a Les Paul or other Mahogany bodied guitar. I'm thinking Jackson SL2 Mahogany 8)

I'm going to roll with this for awhile. Eventually I might try the Pearly Gates, CustomCustom, or Slash pickups to see what those do as well.
Non-MTS stuff for sale.

Good deals with: warlock, sickpunk, marinebassplayer, Rising Farce, durchgedreht, mattfig, & others.

Post Reply