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need gut shots of egnater modules

Post by okstrat » Tue May 15, 2007 10:57 pm

Just want to see what component types he's using - if they are any different. If you had single channel egnater versions of the SL+, Recto, ultra or brown (if those are all even made?) I would REALLY like to see one of those, but even a gut shot of a 2 channel would be appreciated. I believe I saw one that had all carbon comp resistors, but I'm not sure.

So far I *DO* know that I prefer how orange drops perform over those brown xicon caps in the Randall modules.

I'm just trying to eke out a little more tone from my modules. Thanks in advance, I'll share anything I find here.

Pete

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Post by NuSkoolTone » Wed May 16, 2007 7:24 am

I know what you mean. I've been DYING to see an single channel SL2 (Randall SL+) forever! Bruce told me they were close, but I never got details.

The biggest difference I see in my Egnater SL Module is the Carbon Comp Resistors. They're used throughout. The caps are nicer, and the opamps appear different.
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Post by okstrat » Wed May 16, 2007 8:07 am

NuSkoolTone wrote:I know what you mean. I've been DYING to see an single channel SL2 (Randall SL+) forever! Bruce told me they were close, but I never got details.

The biggest difference I see in my Egnater SL Module is the Carbon Comp Resistors. They're used throughout. The caps are nicer, and the opamps appear different.
Could I see a pic? I'd just like to see what the differences are - even on a dual channel, seeing what parts he uses would be interesting to me. I wish I could remember where I saw a gut shot of one, I do remember the carbon comps. Thanks!

Pete

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Post by strato62 » Wed May 16, 2007 12:35 pm

I've seen some single Egnater module pics and you'll find relays, a much more sonically transparent option instead of the H11F1 Bilateral Analog FET Output Optocoupler like the one you'll find in the Randall modules.
Also, i think Egnater used H11F2 in it's IE4 preamp as well as in the TOL line of amps if i remember.

The use of relays combined with the use of carbon comp resistors and orange drop can definately render a 'better sound' compared to what's used in Randall's modules.


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Post by strato62 » Wed May 16, 2007 12:40 pm

Precisions: Randall's module do not have OpAmps, those six pin black ic's are Bilateral Analog FET Output Optocouplers H11F1.

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Post by jmgman70 » Wed May 16, 2007 2:03 pm

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Post by jmgman70 » Wed May 16, 2007 2:04 pm

Sorry for the crappy shot!

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Post by okstrat » Wed May 16, 2007 3:01 pm

Thanks man! Here's what I see so far:

1) actual relays on the Egnater module vs the switching ICs (I'm betting the Eggy stuff is more acoustically transparent)

2) carbon comp resistors

3) Some caps are blue, some are the same brown ones in the Randalls.

4) silver mica small caps (can't remember what the randalls have)

It's obviously a different board because the Eggy has the dual gain/masters.

Anybody have a single channel eggy board I can gander at?

Pete

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Post by studio289 » Wed May 16, 2007 5:56 pm

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Post by jmgman70 » Wed May 16, 2007 6:26 pm

rmilbeck wrote:5) Tone First! printed on the PCB. :lol:
I always thought that was cool!!!!!!!!

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Post by seeker » Wed May 16, 2007 7:11 pm

PM me with an e-mail address and I'll send a photo of my EG4.


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Post by muudrock » Thu May 17, 2007 9:13 am

Here you go. Gut shot of Egnater SL++
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Post by jmgman70 » Thu May 17, 2007 9:35 am

Now that is a PIC!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by okstrat » Thu May 17, 2007 10:05 am

No joke, that was awesome. Thanks man!

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Post by metalmm785 » Thu May 17, 2007 12:44 pm

What's that little switch next to R40 by the mid/highs tone control? Is that the bright switch?
Just curious and thanks!
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