Is Synergy dead before it begins?

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Is Synergy dead before it begins?

Post by drewiv » Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:31 am

The used market is deader than dead. The "new" gear they plan to release is far from groundbreaking when compared to the 10+ year old Egnater gear. Unless they have a marketing campaign lined up that rivals Apple, Nike and Budweiser wrapped together I honestly don't see this going anywhere. The fact it's taking Synergy years to release a product that's been designed for over a decade is even more troubling. Maybe I'm a sourpuss today, but these are my rambling thoughts.
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Post by withmittens » Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:02 am

I feel the same. I just want to see if the Friedman and Bogner mods will come and be any better than whats out there. No real need, just what to know
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Post by Bucksears » Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:00 am

Does this mean I shouldn't bother selling my MOD50 and modules?
Seriously.

I'm using my pedals through my Fender more, and the Eggie stuff is too expensive to keep if I'm not playing it.
I'm not giving it away though.

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Post by JayDA » Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:07 am

Bucksears wrote: the Eggie stuff is too expensive to keep if I'm not playing it.
I'm not giving it away though.
The bad news is....if you want to sell it...yes you are giving it away. I was amazed at what I ended up letting some gear go for recently....it's a DEAD market. The Facebook group is your best bet if you're selling something.

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Post by JKD » Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:09 am

I feel the same, just want the official Friedman mods and the M2 to use with Randall gear...

I have two MOD50s gathering dust...well one of them I play but t sell them, would have to be given away.
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Post by Bucksears » Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:58 am

Not that it's a BAD amp to be stuck with - it's not a $2400 solid-state Peavey.
I probably need a better cab/speakers to run it through.

Maybe when the Synergy stuff gets out in the wild, there might be more interest.

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Post by drewiv » Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:55 am

I'm not saying it's bad gear, quite the contrary - it's great gear. Almost guaranteed I will always have it, but attempting to downsize at the moment is futile. My only point is, if you can't give away the used gear, what kind of market is there for NEW gear?
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Post by JayDA » Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:09 am

drewiv wrote:I'm not saying it's bad gear, quite the contrary - it's great gear. Almost guaranteed I will always have it, but attempting to downsize at the moment is futile. My only point is, if you can't give away the used gear, what kind of market is there for NEW gear?
Drew is right, downsizing right now sucks.... just did it.

Does anyone here have a Synergy amp on order?

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Post by JKD » Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:16 am

JayDA wrote:
drewiv wrote:I'm not saying it's bad gear, quite the contrary - it's great gear. Almost guaranteed I will always have it, but attempting to downsize at the moment is futile. My only point is, if you can't give away the used gear, what kind of market is there for NEW gear?
Drew is right, downsizing right now sucks.... just did it.

Does anyone here have a Synergy amp on order?
Signed up for $1,600 worth of stuff....of course, payment not due until it's available :-)
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Post by studio289 » Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:44 pm

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Post by Capt_Tippy » Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:32 pm

Here's my 2 cents.

Interfaces are all overpriced.

It'll be interesting to hear the Modules, but good luck beating the tone on some of Anthony's Modules.

Not holding my breath for any of it to be released.

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Post by Bucksears » Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:40 am

My only remaining hope is the fact that someone (audiomidi?) has been playing the new stuff on a somewhat regular basis.
Again, we'll see.

If that stuff DOES make it to market, I think it will be a hit. The E2 will be the unit everyone will want as an add-on to their current amp.

If it takes yet another NAMM show to demo it, I think folks will probably move on.

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Post by webrthomson » Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:30 am

I think it will get to market and I've added my name to the list for some stuff. However I think that it's always going to be something of a niche market.

Guitarists are pretty conservative and if you look at most of the stuff we are using it was made in (or derived from stuff made in) the 1950's.

Even the Kemper / AXFX / Helix / BIAS stuff, while very advanced, just lets you sound like these old amps and their newer interpretations.

I remember showing a friend of mine my RM100 and he was astonished at the thought of changing the preamp module - it was a mixture of amazement and blasphemy :)

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Post by gtr31 » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:22 am

My concern is the long gaps with no updates
I do appreciate audiojace posting here as he seems to
Be in touch and does chime in when he can


The reason I am concerned is I feel that
This is a familiar pattern we have seen it with new Egnater products
That takes years and never come to market

Also as studio mentioned above none of the builders seem
To want to talk about it it's not on Soldanos page
Freidman just released his runt series that is very reasonable priced
Why would someone by the SYN 50 for close to 3000
Loaded if the could get a runt or an HR25 from Soldano
For under 2000

Freyette is another great builder but he took deposits
On a Kickstarter and 2 years later the product started to trickle out
Morgan another partner has a thread from hell at TGP
About his business practice

And again as studio said Bruce doesn't speak much on Synergy mostly amp building classes

So it has been all in all a little disappointing
Even if they said it's gotta be another 90 days that to me would be better than
Hanging

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Post by lintycreep » Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:03 pm

Yeah, my suggestion is to keep your gear unless you're truly over MTS. I've reached the absolute lowest prices that I'm willing to sell my gear. I'll keep what I can't sell and pick up a SYN1 to run that stuff. I'm not donating to your charity sorry, :lol:

I think it'll start trickling out (within the next year) and you'll see the demos from Pete Thorn. I recall seeing him demo the M4 and other egnater products. The only thing that is keeping me positive is the relationship between Bruce, Friedman and Fryette. Will it be better than what's out there now... marginally better is my guess.

Amp builders need to keep things under their hats longer than they are. Don't announce a product until 6 months before it truly comes out. There nothing worse than waiting for months and then not hearing anything for several more.
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