Twinface drive sounds vs cleans? need help

+1 on the VybeDeluxe comment. I have it plus I have a Deluxe with a JF base mod and a JF Twin Mod. All three are different. The twin has that incredible warm fender tone and stays clean all the way up. The Deluxe has a really warm distortion with a little edge to it when I crank it and the Vybe has a little of both. I have a 1962 Epiphone with the original P90s Casino and it transforms me back to the 60s through those amps. I also have a 76 Strat and Larry Dimarzio turned me on to one of his prewired Area pick guards with noiseless single coils. It is the most vintage sounding tone I have ever heard when I run it through those mods. I sat up last night running it through all three and I was enthralled for two hours. Rob truly gets the fender tone like nobody else. With a Les Paul or humbuckers they sound much different than with single coils.

I've got a Twinface. Not crazy about the pushed mode, sounds similar to amps that jumper their tone controls to get a crunch channel and end up dominated with a barky lower mid tone. I didn't think the mod had a lot of variations otherwise on the first day because I set the mojo switch to the louder setting "for passive pick-ups" and didn't experiment with it much further until later. On the louder setting, the Twin sounds are a nice, full Fender as you'd expect, while the Deluxe tones are bassier, good for more single note jazzy runs perhaps, but woofy for chord work. Going back the next day I started to play with the mojo switch and found with it set on the quiet side you had to bump the gain pot up considerably to get the full Fender tones, but also the Deluxe tones were now much less bassy. With higher gain settings it can go from an edge of break-up tone to a full-on humbucker into a Deluxe Crazy Horse raunch. Completely fun to play, just a litttle un-intuitive to find as it lives on the low gain side of the mojo switch.

Hmmm. Were you using an open back cab? Which speaker(s)?

Fane type speaker, Reeves vintage purple. bright and punchy. RM 50 Combo and 2 x 12 semi open back yeah, Vybe doesn't do it for me.

the strat sounded ok but I've tired of the strat. the LP has splits that sound half decent

I don;t get the pushed thing at all. Why throw a Mesa inspired think into a Fender mod.....? Not a fan, have not tried Salvo's Pushed but I imagine the same.

Ima call Voodoo and see what he'll do.

withmittens said:

Hmmm. Were you using an open back cab? Which speaker(s)?

Fane type speaker, Reeves vintage purple. bright and punchy. RM 50 Combo and 2 x 12 semi open back yeah, Vybe doesn't do it for me.

the strat sounded ok but I've tired of the strat. the LP has splits that sound half decent

I don;t get the pushed thing at all. Why throw a Mesa inspired think into a Fender mod.....? Not a fan, have not tried Salvo's Pushed but I imagine the same.

Ima call Voodoo and see what he'll do.

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It sounds to me as if you're going to have a difficult time achieving the tone you're describing with those speakers.

Stock Fender amps featured Jensen speakers and they're still available today. As Ricky noted, most people found the SRO or JBL's more desirable in Fender Twin's but for most Fender amps, the stock Jensen's were perfect.

It's hard to imagine a Fane loaded cabinet achieving the same results. Good luck!

Here's a little Voodoo Twin clip for you guys. The first section is clean (gain around 3), the second section is dirtier (gain around 6), and the third section is dirtiest (gain dimed). Same EQ settings on all three sections except that I took the treble down a bit in the clip where the gain is dimed. The internal trim pot is set for minimum gain. The guitar is my 1979 Tokai Les Paul Reborn with Seth Lover (PAF-style) pickups. Pickup selector is in middle position in first two sections and bridge position for the last section. The amp is the power section of an Egnater Tweaker running 6V6s. The cab is a Boogie Studio .22 combo loaded with a Celestion MC-90. The mic is an Audix i5 positioned halfway between the center and the edge of the cone.

Whoopysnorp said:

Here's a little Voodoo Twin clip for you guys. The first section is clean (gain around 3), the second section is dirtier (gain around 6), and the third section is dirtiest (gain dimed). Same EQ settings on all three sections except that I took the treble down a bit in the clip where the gain is dimed. The internal trim pot is set for minimum gain. The guitar is my 1979 Tokai Les Paul Reborn with Seth Lover (PAF-style) pickups. Pickup selector is in middle position in first two sections and bridge position for the last section. The amp is the power section of an Egnater Tweaker running 6V6s. The cab is a Boogie Studio .22 combo loaded with a Celestion MC-90. The mic is an Audix i5 positioned halfway between the center and the edge of the cone.

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Cool clip! It sounds like a "good" Princeton to me, which is probably due to the 6V6's. Also, for those that don't know, the Mesa/Boogie Celestion MC-90 is a 90 watt version of the Celestion Classic Lead 80, which is my favorite speaker for recording.

The Twinface sounds great, albeit very much like the JF Superclean. I can dial in those same tones, although I prefer to run it a bit cleaner most of the time.

Thanks Mike. Yeah, the CL-80/MC-90 is ideal for recording because it's so balanced. It's a real jack-of-all-trades speaker. It's not going to give you any major characteristics, which can be a downside if you're looking for a certain sound, but it's great for MTS because every module sounds pretty great through it.

Mike P said:

It sounds to me as if you're going to have a difficult time achieving the tone you're describing with those speakers.

Stock Fender amps featured Jensen speakers and they're still available today. As Ricky noted, most people found the SRO or JBL's more desirable in Fender Twin's but for most Fender amps, the stock Jensen's were perfect.

It's hard to imagine a Fane loaded cabinet achieving the same results. Good luck!

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The Fane, or Reeves is such a great speaker for everything else that I do so it has to stay. It's far above any celestion I've ever had. I've got other loaded cabinets to try but Jensens isn't an option. again, as with MTS, a perfect repro sound isn't necessarily the goal, just really trying to capture the standout characteristics of a sound. It's about having this option available in a set with a click. building a nuts on Twin would be limiting for me. I thought for a long time that JBL's or the Weber clones would be good, but it's just limiting when you have multiple mods to choose from. It might make for a spanking Fender tone but fall flat with an Orange or Vox sound, definitely a hiwatt-(non gilmour)

And the Reeves is a seriously bad *** speaker