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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Cabinet mic placement Reply with quote

I've seen the Egnater videos several times, and noticed that the mic was placed inside the Marshall 4x12. Being a newbie to mic'ng guitar cabs I'm curious why this is done. It seems this would cut the highs and make the bass and mids more pronounced, is this correct ? I'll be placing the E609 silver mic's in front of (2) 2 x12's for recording, maybe in seperate rooms to avoid blending the left and right channels with ambient sound. I suppose I'll need to experiment, but punching a hole in my cab grill is out !
If anyone has any input on stereo recording and mic placement , I'd appreciate the info.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its all down to experimentation. Remember that just because it sounds great by itself doesnt mean it will work in the song you are recording.
I start out by putting a SM57 in front of one of the 12 speakers, off the left or right of the cone at a distance of about 6 inches. I record a few passages and check the results.
Essentially, I get a good sound in the room, and then try to mic THAT.
Sometimes a close mic and a distance mic makes for a really great overall sound. Its done all the time by pros.

You remember you really shouldnt rely on fixing any sound in the mix. It takes years to really learn this stuff..hope this post..though late...helps.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The SM57 is a great starting place for any cab micing to be done. They are cheap, rugged, and most everyone knows what they sound like.
If you are stereo micing ANYTHING, keep phase relationship in mind, otherwise you will have cancellation, or oscilation (think of what a phaser sounds like). A good rule for stereo is put the second mike 1.5 times the distance away from the source (in comparison to the first one). Just remember that the cab isn't the source, the top left speaker is (or whichever one you use). Room mics are good ideas for stereo, place one right next to the other and angle one just left of the cab, and the other just right. For me, this works better with condenser mics, not dynamic.
There is no right or wrong answer to mic placement, just like there is no right and wrong to guitar tone, just preference and function within the arrangment of the song.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a tip: E609's are designed to be extremely close to the source sound, which is why many bands will tape them to the front of their amps.. Placing a mic inside a cab would definitely roll off the highs, and it would also be eliminating most of the room noise, while absorbing the natural sound properties of the cabinet itself (natural reverberations, etc...). I would think that they'd need to use a pretty bright mic and would need to clear a lot of subs out with an EQ. I've never really tried this, but I can see how it would give a unique sound.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good video for showing a bit more than basics
http://www.imperialmastering.com/guitartonevid/
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A 57 close, center = bright, outside edge = dark.... and then...

A large diaphram condenser, omni, placed about where your head would be if you were standing a foot in front of the cab. Creates a nice ambient feel, like you are there.

Won't work so well with a stack or if you are three feet tall.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hyenik wrote:
Good video for showing a bit more than basics
http://www.imperialmastering.com/guitartonevid/


This video is really good. He does a great job explaining the differences in the positions.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uturn232002 wrote:
hyenik wrote:
Good video for showing a bit more than basics
http://www.imperialmastering.com/guitartonevid/


This video is really good. He does a great job explaining the differences in the positions.


It really is. Just started recording some solo guitar stuff and this really helped me get a good quality recording.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hyenik wrote:
Good video for showing a bit more than basics
http://www.imperialmastering.com/guitartonevid/


The above link no longer exists. Anybody have a clue for an alternate link that's just as good?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This kinda goes over different mic placements on guitar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyDnoHSFsnc




Graham Pearson wrote:
hyenik wrote:
Good video for showing a bit more than basics
http://www.imperialmastering.com/guitartonevid/


The above link no longer exists. Anybody have a clue for an alternate link that's just as good?
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