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seanh303
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the bright side, the speakers run $220 a piece. I'll PM you an answer to your ?. Oh yeah, who said you could buy MY cab??? Laughing
Hey on the bright side, like I said, those are some expensive Celestions...could get you well on your way to the pair you want. There's 2 super V's on here for $150, and you could get more than that by selling 1 of those G12M's.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:53 pm    Post subject: 2 x 12 Reply with quote

I have a 2x 12. Only a few were made. Sounds killer. Don't know what speakers are in it. It was the last one Randall had. Got it through Funky Munky. I will try to see what speakers are in it but I have to take it apart. It is vented at the bottom but not enough to see. Maybe if I had a dental mirror....
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah dude, definitely want to check, as it could be rated at 150w RMS, 100w RMS, or 40w RMS depending on what speakers are loaded in it. Even if you are using just a 50w head (but ESPECIALLY if a 100w), you'll want to know how much volume and distortion you should be cranking so as not to risk blowing the speakers.
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spencer4hire wrote:
Doing some research looking through the Randall Catalogs and price sheets it appears they made two versions of the 2X12 Lynchbox cab.RS212LB and RS212LBC. The C indicates it is Celestion Greenback loaded. I like Greenbacks but I really hope it has the SuperVs.


They only made a limited number of the RS212LBCs--never made the RS212LBs. I went through quite a run around back when they were supposed by available. They had advertised the gold trimmed, SuperV loaded 212 for the longest time--and never actually made them. I ordered one and got the 212C which was silver trimmed and loaded with greenbacks. After a big back and forth with various people at Randall, it was determined that they had the two versions listed but I was told the 212C with silver trim was the only one available. They had a short run and discontinued because the Lynch line was getting a "make over" Anyway, I converted it over to gold trim, to include repainting the smaller size skull and bones from silver to gold and replacing the black and silver grill cloth with black and gold grill cloth. It looks totally OEM. I loaded it with EVM 12Ls--the greatest guitar speaker ever made. I would never put them in a 4 x 12 though because they weigh 20 pounds each. The difference between the EVM and a Celestion or an Eminence is like the difference between the Wright Bros biplane and the Space Shuttle. Way HUGE bottom, silky smooth mids and highs--and virtually indestructible. My fav speaker for 20 years--downside is they are so heavy. I had tried the ultra light Celestion Century vintage in the Lynch 212 which weigh less the 4 pounds each (in my 40s and the back aint what it used to be) But, I just could not get used to them after using EV in everything else I've had since the 80s. I used EV Force speakers in the 80s and switched to the EVM in he early 90s. Anyway, after the swap--wow, what a huge and amazing difference. I've just accepted the extra weight is worth it. Zakk Wylde uses them in his 4 x 12s but of course he has roadies--that's 80 pounds of speakers per cab!


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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn you and you're speaker GAS flames Caine!
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caine wrote:
Spencer4hire wrote:
Doing some research looking through the Randall Catalogs and price sheets it appears they made two versions of the 2X12 Lynchbox cab.RS212LB and RS212LBC. The C indicates it is Celestion Greenback loaded. I like Greenbacks but I really hope it has the SuperVs.


Zakk Wylde uses them in his 4 x 12s but of course he has roadies--that's 80 pounds of speakers per cab!


I might have to try one of the EVM's out. I have a 1X12 with a Scumback M75 100 watt running with a 2X12 loaded up with the Scum M75LHDC's.

One EVM in a 1X12 could add something new without pulling a muscle to move it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pulled my SuperVs (for sale now) in the Lynch box cab and replaced them with WGS ET65s on the bottom, and Green Berets on top.

I can't help myself, I'm just a greenback kinda guy. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old thread, but I love the Super V's.

I have 2 Lynch Super V cabs and they blow away anything I have ever owned with China-Lestions.

I had a Marshall cab with G12T-75s when I first bought my RM100. Sold that and bought a Randall XXL with V-30s. I thought it sounded better than the Marshall, the G12T-75s were too dark and muddy. The V-30s sounded better, but were way too piercing. So I bought an XXL with G12T-75s too. I tried each individually, but I bought the 2 XXLs to specifically X pattern each cab to try and get what I wanted. When X-ed, they sounded alright...

THEN I tried a Lynch cab and it was all over. So much smoother, fuller, and just an all around awesome tone no matter what style. The Lynch cabs are ported which is part of the fullness, but next to the Lynch cabs the XXLs sounded like transistor radios. I bought the Lynch cabs in 2009 and have not plugged in the XXLs since. I always wanted to load both of the XXLs with Super-V's as well, to see how they sounded in a closed back cab because the Lynch cabs are slightly over-sized but not as big as th XXLs, but never got around to it because I didn't want to blow $1000 on speakers and as stated they were only 8ohm. I was hoping they would eventually release a 16ohm version, but no, and now they're discontinued Crying or Very sad

I was going to contact Eminence and see what the closest 16 ohm speaker they offer is, because I am sure it is just a tweaked Eminence Legend or Governor or something, or ask if X-ing two of their speakers would give me a similar tone.

Anyway, here is the spec sheet.

http://www.toutlehautparleur.com/guitar/eminence-lynch-super-v12-p-3204.html
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bumping a thread I found via Google search.

I would think the Mk 1 Lynchbox cabs had Greenbacks in the later runs because of the discontinuation of the Super V speakers, and Randall probably had a surplus of empty Lynchbox cabs and just threw in the Greenies so they could be sold.

I played through 2 Lynchbox cabs a couple years ago (at Funky Munky) - I would *assume* both were loaded with Super V's but I really can't be sure. I played the new LB103 through a Mk1 Lynchbox at Funky and was floored by how good it sounded. The other Lynchbox cab was a 2x12 I used when I had a private lesson with George Lynch:

Fxrfxr was this yours that you brought in??



Larry at Funky said after George saw that snakeskin setup he bought a couple rolls of the snakeskin vinyl so he could do his whole backline with it Smile

Having said that, I own a pair of Super Vs and a pair of Lynchbacks. The Lynchbacks are f#$kin SWEET. I belive they have a V30 vibe to them, but also the warmth of Greenbacks.

I have used each of the pairs in a 2x12 Avatar cabinet, and have used both in an X pattern in my Soldano 4x12. The Super Vs are difficult for me to get along with; I have to turn up the presence, treble, and gain quite a bit to get clarity. They also need to be pushed hard to sound good, and even my stage volume just isn't enough. It's plenty for the Lynchbacks to sound killer, though.

Both pairs in a 4x12 cab, the Super Vs easily overpower the Lynchbacks as I can't hear the Lynchbacks at all. Very low end centered on the Super Vs. I know a lot of guys praise the Super Vs a lot, but with my particular setup and volume they just aren't for me, which disappoints me Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dang this thread has me confused now. I played a lynchbox 4x12 that I fell in love with but was short on funds for and it got sold. I've been looking to find another but now don't know which speakers it was loaded with for that sound it had. I thought I read somewhere that the Super V's where supposed to be modeled aftera a fane that GL loved, are the Celestions the same does anyone know?
Anyone have a super v for sale? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Eminence Lynch Super V12 needs to be pushed very loud. The really wake up at the loud volumes, unlike the greenbacks and V30s - V30s being one of the best lower volume speakers around. Greenbacks need some power, but not near the V12s, which sound ridiculously bad at home volumes. Just like they need more presence but that doesn't work either.

That Gilmour-like "leaning into the decibels" sort of Fane sound is there with the V12, though. There's a ton of muscle and bite in every note, and you can feel yourself milking every note as much as hear it. It's a great 1 and done 1x12 combo speaker if you play loud.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

old thread i know but thought i'd add that i have good experiences replacing the RI greenbacks in a 4x12 with two super v's. i have two weber legacy on top and 2 super v's on the bottom. I quite like them but the master needs to be up around the 2-3 mark for them to kick. By home standards with a 4x12, i suppose that is loud. going to sell the greenbacks as i also did not care for what i hear as harsh high end..
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spencer4hire wrote:
... Doing some research looking through the Randall Catalogs and price sheets it appears they made two versions of the 2X12 Lynchbox cab.RS212LB and RS212LBC. The C indicates it is Celestion Greenback loaded...


Yes, there were the two catalog numbers but the only version that was apparently ever produced was the "C" version (Celestion greenbacks), with silver/black grill cloth, silver on black skull logo and silver piping. I found this out after quite a bit of confusion when I thought I was ordering the gold trimmed Super V version that was advertised on the internet for months on end.

So, (I think this was back in 2010) I ordered, what I thought what the gold trimmed version, via a local music store and what showed up at the store was the silver trimmed 2 x 12 greenbacks cab. The Randall rep that my local store rep spoke to did not even know what was going on and we ended up having to talk to someone that worked in the warehouse and it was concluded that only one version was ever available. I am assuming that what likely happened is that there was a run that was intended to match the 50w silver trimmed Lynch head and they never got around to doing a run of the gold trimmed version. Somewhere in the mix, Lynch's agreement with Eminence ended and Randall's license for the MTS line with Egnater was also going to be ending and so a whole new Lynch line was going to be introduced which is probably why the other cab was never made.

Well, I wanted the cab to match my 100w gold trimmed Lynch head and so I had the silver piping swapped out for matching gold piping. You can get the same stuff online at Mojotone.com. I replaced the silver/black grill cloth with a gold/black grill cloth that is similar to what came on the original MTS era 4 x12 Lynch cabs. I took the black leather triangle piece in the front and had it recovered with the green gator tolex. I also had a guy repaint the silver on black skull logo, gold. He used a gold semi transparent tint paint (I think he mixed brown and yellow tint that he probably got from Stew Mac) and just sprayed it and the sliver turned gold and the black just stayed black. The whole cab looks really good--like it came from the factory that way. The piping was really easy to swap out--something you can do yourself in a couple of hours on a Saturday afternoon.

When I bought the cab, I worked out a deal where the music store kept the greenbacks and I got a discount on the cab. I put a pair of EVM 12L Classics in it. Love it! Will post pics.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EVM12L Classics in my Lynch 2 x 12 cab - I have been using EVM 12Ls for years, although, these are the first reissues (classics) that I have had. The magnets are huge. While I was installing them, I had a plastic bowl sitting on the magnet. Notice the washer suspended off the end of a screw. It looks sort of like it's touching the side of the bowl, but it's not. It's stuck to the end of a screw, which is also suspended off another screw, which is stuck to a screw on the bottom of the bowl -which is magnetized by the speaker magnet underneath the bowl. The whole speaker weighs about 20 pounds (each) with the magnet accounting for most of that weight. The frame is cast aluminum which reduces the loss of bottom end frequencies.








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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caine did you put the foam in your cabinet? Mine doesn't have any and it sounds like an empty box? I have 2 Super Vs in mine.
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