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1987 landed today. Edit: Clip added on page 2.
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eyeball987
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:56 pm    Post subject: 1987 landed today. Edit: Clip added on page 2. Reply with quote

I have only had 5 minutes at very low volumes to tinker with it so far. Tonight I will let it roar! More on those findings later. Maybe even a comparison video. Depends on how many I end up tossing back before hand.

I loaded up the RM100 (EL34's) with a stock SL+, JF Brahma, and the 1987. SL+ has more gain and is brighter. I had the JF Brahma's boost engaged so it had more gain as well. Without the boost, it would probably be close. I will try that later.

The 1987 sits in a different sonic space than the other two. I will see if I can get that picked up in the vid I shoot tonight. I can't really describe it at the moment.

Overall, it sounds pretty good. It's a great mid gainer with out a boost hammering the front end and sounds like a great gainy Marshall based tone with the boost.

Mine is labeled GTO and then marked out with a red Sharpie and Scott 1987 added. I will take gut shots of the SL+ and 1987 together for those who want to see what differences are in there.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1987


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great post! and thanks for the pics.. I'm always that annoying guy who asks for pics so you've gone beyond the call of duty. Interesting to hear that the SL+ had more high end. I thought the stock SL+ needed a tad more for my likings... however, on looking at your side by side, check out where the mode switch is on the judge. Notice where the cap is on the SL+ C14.. I need to look at the traces on the bottom of the board or the actual schematic for the PCB and see if that affects the treble cap because that would prob add some more brightness to that 1987'. ..or not, I am only guessing at this point! Would you say the Judge has the edge where brightness is concerned?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The side by side shot is very interesting. Thanks for that! Looking forward to your clips!
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Steven Latch
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really looking forwards to reading your comments after you tried it at a high volume.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the pics.. it is always very useful to see.
I'm waiting also for clips.
May i ask what are the values at C7 and C13?
And if it is not too much trouble, pots values also?
I'm on the learning process... Very Happy
thank you again
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice. Please post clips when you can. I am looking forward to hearing this one. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will do some comparison clips later after my headache from last night goes away.

It sounded really good turned up. Lower gain than the SL+ but clearer because of it. Sounded pretty close to the JF Brahma with the boost off.

The 1987 takes a clean boost well. My modded modules seem to work better with a MXR Classic OD because it cuts a bit off low end. The 1987 likes the CC Trans OD.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The astute will notice the missing "Q3 & Q4" on the 1987
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eero wrote:
Thanks for the pics.. it is always very useful to see.
I'm waiting also for clips.
May i ask what are the values at C7 and C13?
And if it is not too much trouble, pots values also?
I'm on the learning process... Very Happy
thank you again


C7 and C13 are both 0.68uf. Whatever that means.

Pots are 1M for the gain and bass, treble is 250k, and the level is 500k. I can't see the mid pot very well but it looks like 25k but that can't be right.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going out to enjoy my Saturday night. Clips when I return. Any requests?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

80's metal!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eyeball987 wrote:
eero wrote:
Thanks for the pics.. it is always very useful to see.
I'm waiting also for clips.
May i ask what are the values at C7 and C13?
And if it is not too much trouble, pots values also?
I'm on the learning process... Very Happy
thank you again


C7 and C13 are both 0.68uf. Whatever that means.

Pots are 1M for the gain and bass, treble is 250k, and the level is 500k. I can't see the mid pot very well but it looks like 25k but that can't be right.


Thank you Sir!
very kind... looking forward to hearing your clips too
80' metal would be cool Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jsgregg wrote:
80's metal!!!


That is a given.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After much modules testing, I found that my best boosted JCM800 tones came from the 1987 with a clean boost, and the egnater SL++

The 1987 sounds the most natural, with the SL++ sounding more processed but in a good way. It probably has to do with the tone pot values that seem to sccop the mids a bit. The 1987 is much more versatile, with some great mid gain tones too.

Firing up either of those modules is always a cool reminder that the modular concept really delivers the goods!
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