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1987 landed today. Edit: Clip added on page 2.
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eero
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steven Latch wrote:
After much modules testing, I found that my best boosted JCM800 tones came from the 1987 with a clean boost, and the egnater SL++

The 1987 sounds the most natural, with the SL++ sounding more processed but in a good way. It probably has to do with the tone pot values that seem to sccop the mids a bit. The 1987 is much more versatile, with some great mid gain tones too.

Firing up either of those modules is always a cool reminder that the modular concept really delivers the goods!


Steven, i answered you in this thread, check it out:
http://www.mtsforum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?t=14588
let me know if this is the solution for you Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well.... Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry. I recorded a couple clips last Saturday night and was a bit more lit up than I thought.

I was hoping to download some free video editing software to cut out all of the non-sense and to shorten them up but got tied up with work and have not investigated that yet. I will see if I can get them uploaded to Youtube as they are today and post.

The next clips will be with the camera mic on the cab instead of in the room. I don't feel like the room shot captured the dynamics very well.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you go. My right hand was being lazy due to the Saturday night festivities. I will do another vid when I am in better condition.

The clips sounds muffled to me. I found the 1987 to sound much clearer in the room.

I start with no boost and then click the boost on and off. You can see when that happens.

Settings:
G - 2:30
B - 1:30
M - 3:00
T - 11:30
L - 11:00

Amp:
P - 11:30
D - noon
M - 10:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3tQKMBvrg8&list=UUkxCxO7lqe_Ze0z5D9MTT-w&index=1&feature=plcp
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Eero,

Yes, I did see your advice and I thought I had answered and realized I didn't!

I haven't tried modding the SL++ myself as soldering a guitar pickup is as far as my skills have taken me so far. The truth is that depending on my modd of the day, I find the SL++ too scooped... or to my taste so I am still unsure I should mod it. Plus, I have an EQ in the loop for a mid bost. It is midi switchable so it is a good option so far.

Can't check the video right now Eyeball but I will tomorrow!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it.. sounds pretty good to me without the boost actually. The boost puts it over the top and sounds great too.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steven Latch wrote:
Hey Eero,

Yes, I did see your advice and I thought I had answered and realized I didn't!

I haven't tried modding the SL++ myself as soldering a guitar pickup is as far as my skills have taken me so far. The truth is that depending on my modd of the day, I find the SL++ too scooped... or to my taste so I am still unsure I should mod it. Plus, I have an EQ in the loop for a mid bost. It is midi switchable so it is a good option so far.

Can't check the video right now Eyeball but I will tomorrow!


there are some other news concerning my SL++ mods...
today, after many trials and comparison i found this module, while better with 33k at slope resistor, still with too much bass and no cut, i wanted more upper mids for Marshall crunch... so i added a 470 pF ceramic cap (1Kv) at C10.
BAM! Now is very good.... (with bass, mid and treble eq at 1 o'clock approximately, and voicing button off, not pushed) i got great Marshall crunch... i strongly suggest you try these mods, it is really worth Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eyeball:
i like it too, especially not boosted...
on the other hand,should not be too difficult adding more gain, i think... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eero wrote:
Eyeball:
i like it too, especially not boosted...
on the other hand,should not be too difficult adding more gain, i think... Very Happy


It sounds better in the room. Cutting the module gain to noon and adding the boost was really nice.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No boost needed for this one..(at least when i had owned it) Clip is cool eyeball- Gives you a feel of the module- Throaty and open- Like a JCM800 with added gain...Was a killer module, I just have been on a selling/trading spree or I'd still have it! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rblyn wrote:
No boost needed for this one..(at least when i had owned it) Clip is cool eyeball- Gives you a feel of the module- Throaty and open- Like a JCM800 with added gain...Was a killer module, I just have been on a selling/trading spree or I'd still have it! Rolling Eyes


I am going to rock the 1987 again tonight. I really like it but am on bit of a flipping spree myself. All my modules are Marshall based and I guess I should branch out a little more. Even though I thought about trading it for a JF 1959RR.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice video. After watching that I'm on the 87 after work.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool to see the pics of the mods side by side... I've never tried soldering, but seeing how many open spaces the one mod has over the other is intriguing to me. I might have to get a soldering for dum dums starter kit and ruin a module soon! Wink

And sad to see dislikes on the you tube vid... I gave it a nod, but common y'all, let's show some appreciation for a fair and clean vid demo.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oregon wrote:
And sad to see dislikes on the you tube vid... I gave it a nod, but common y'all, let's show some appreciation for a fair and clean vid demo.


I don't care about negative comments. I am well aware that the sound quality is less than desirable. Not to mention, I usually make vid clips when I have the house to myself and have been out for a while prior to shooting.

Regardless of whether or not the Alesis Video Track is a decent recorder or not, I can't get anywhere close to "in the room" sounds on any video I have tried. Close mic'd, room mic'd... Doesn't matter. I suck at the technicalities of recording. I am fine with it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey eyeball....just reacquired a 1987 (no idea why I traded my first one)...anyway, in looking at the gutshot (with the red pen added "Scott" etc on the board, I just realized the markings are exactly the same-I have your old mod- Cool Enjoying it quite a bit- Now that I have a Judge and 1987 sitting here side by side, you can tell that Scott "started" with the same basic tone of the GTO and tweaked more towards a JCM800 sound (vs Plexi) but both sound MARSHALL all the way.
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