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Dirty Sanchez MTS mod based on Dirty Shirley
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Capt_Tippy
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id recommend you go with the digital solder station

I have something similar to that.

https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Line-70w-Soldering-Station/dp/B00IT305RS/ref=sr_1_19?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1476536930&sr=1-19&keywords=radioshack+soldering

It works very well.

You do need things like tiny needle nose pliers and etc. and that 3rd kit does seem like it has some nice picks and etc in it, but the solder iron is not nearly as nice. I'd get the tools separately. You won't even use most of the tools in that kit.

Something like this is really helpful too

https://www.amazon.com/RadioShack%C2%AE-Helping-Hands-with-Magnifier/dp/B007Z7PXDK/ref=sr_1_17?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1476536930&sr=1-17&keywords=radioshack+soldering
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CrazyNutz
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A solder station is a good thing to have. You also need a desoldering solder sucker. That third kit has one (the long blue tube looking thing)

Whatever you go with, make sure you get extra tips, and that the tips are easy to come by when you need to order more.


withmittens wrote:
My soldering tools are a piece of crap. I need something that won;t destroy this board. I"m looking at a few things....

http://www.amazon.com/Weller-WLC100-40-Watt-Soldering-Station/dp/B000AS28UC/ref=sr_1_7?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1476489910&sr=1-7&keywords=soldering+iron

http://www.amazon.com/X-Tronic-3020-XTS-Digital-Display-Soldering/dp/B01DGZFSNE/ref=sr_1_14?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1476489910&sr=1-14&keywords=soldering+iron

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E1ISGH0?psc=1

the first two seem standard, the third may just be a bunch of extra junk....

any thoughts?
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withmittens
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ordered a solder pump.

F'd up a trace on C9 when I decided to go ahead and move forward. Bastard silver ring came up off the board. Probably the sloppiest thing I've done. I tried to fix it by adding solder and make a solid bridge to the trace but it's still loose.

I guess I might as well move forward when I get the pump but if anything that trace will F me in the end. Looking into how to repair it. I have about 8 more components left to do

If I can get it then back solid good, if not it was a good try at something new. a bit tougher than building a pedal kit.
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Capt_Tippy
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just use a wire to jump the trace
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capt_Tippy wrote:
Just use a wire to jump the trace


What he said!!!

My first few self modded modules had wires all over from screwing up the traces....Run it underneath to avoid making a mess on top....
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capt_Tippy wrote:
Just use a wire to jump the trace


this means to run a wire from the leg at the bad trace ring to the next point on the trace route? In this case it would go from c9 to R25?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes that's what it means withmittens
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone else try this mod but me?....and CrazyNutz, of course?
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bbaug14
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm considering trying this mod out. I'd love to hear a clip of it from one of the guys that did it. I have an Egnater SL2 that is a bit much gain for me. I think the DS mod would be more my style, but I'm curious if it's a little loose and muddy in the low end based on the values I see.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not tried the SL2. The DS is however less muddy, and tighter than a SL+, gain is about the same. If you want less gain you can lower the value of r7. If you want even tighter you can change c8/c9 to 0.0022

bbaug14 wrote:
I'm considering trying this mod out. I'd love to hear a clip of it from one of the guys that did it. I have an Egnater SL2 that is a bit much gain for me. I think the DS mod would be more my style, but I'm curious if it's a little loose and muddy in the low end based on the values I see.
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CrazyNutz
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a crappy phone recording:
https://soundcloud.com/user-864489142/dstest
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CrazyNutz wrote:
Here's a crappy phone recording:
https://soundcloud.com/user-864489142/dstest


Gives good impression of what it sounds like in room....missing quote a lot of low end....due to (phone) recording method?

Great choice of song to! \m/
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, and no. I had the bass knob at 1/3, mids at 1/2, and Treb. Dimed

It has plenty bass on tap, I just had it rolled back to keep my phone mic from farting out.

JKD wrote:
CrazyNutz wrote:
Here's a crappy phone recording:
https://soundcloud.com/user-864489142/dstest


Gives good impression of what it sounds like in room....missing quote a lot of low end....due to (phone) recording method?

Great choice of song to! \m/
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the help of CrazyNuts I've completed the DS mod. Don't know how to read a schematic so he was able to find where I went wrong and made corrections. Thanks CrazyNuts

This mod sounds great. It's structure is planted firmly in the Marshall camp put with more gain than a plexi, more open and toppy than a vintage Marshall yet still has a full bottom end. I'm going to add a switch for High/Low input and a mid shift. possibly a tightness switch as well, which it needs at higher gain settings.

I'm going to make some quick clips this weekend before the additional mods.

This is just my first impression and I'll try to compare it to the clips on YouTube for what that's worth. I really like my Duoplex for lower gain Marshall tones but this DS goes higher in the gain, maybe toward an 800 but possibly more gain than that. it's very touch sensitive and cleaner settings are very punchy and lush, although as a whole the mod is on the brighter side of all this but in a very good way. Still has good chug and thump on the bottom. Very Vintage, which is my flavor

Thanks again CrazyNuts. It's worth doing this mod for sure

EDIT:

I made some clips but they sound like s*&t because of my mic setup. I'll try again soon
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem, my pleasure.
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