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preamp tube brand

Post by teddybear » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:55 pm

which brand synergy use?

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Post by JKD » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:58 pm

ARS..they are re-branded Chinese tubes by the looks of it.

v1 looks like a JJ ECC83 and the other maybe a 12axc9
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Post by Capt_Tippy » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:07 am

....and believe it or not Chinese tubes aren't half bad tubes.
Moral of the story, buy extra tubes, and don't pay up charges. Good luck, cause tube buying is a crap shoot.

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Post by withmittens » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:36 am

......although half of all tubes may be bad
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Post by JKD » Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:31 pm

withmittens wrote:......although half of all tubes may be bad
Hahaha, lol.

Honestly that's the point of the brands though.....they sort through the crap and test/burn them in.

I bought some Sino Power Tubes direct, sounded fantastic....but 2/4 are dead after less than 3 months (first one failed within a week and it's warranty replacement failed within a month.)
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Post by Capt_Tippy » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:22 am

I have a bunch of tube testers, and I went through a stint of checking every tube I could get my hands on. I found the Chinese tubes incredibly (surprisingly) consistent. Rarely a bad one. I don't really like their tone. It's "OK". It's not bad tone, its just mediocre. So considering their reliability, if I were building amps, those are the tubes I'd use too.

So withmittens usually half of the Chinese tubes aren't bad. Russian tubes? yeah half of those are bad LoL ...and depending on where they came from, maybe even more than half.

Nobody asked, but of all the tubes Ive used I think these are the best bang for your buck...

http://www.thetubestore.com/Tubes/Preferred-Series
Moral of the story, buy extra tubes, and don't pay up charges. Good luck, cause tube buying is a crap shoot.

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Post by JKD » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:57 am

Capt_Tippy wrote:
Nobody asked, but of all the tubes Ive used I think these are the best bang for your buck...

http://www.thetubestore.com/Tubes/Preferred-Series
Man, when did this stuff get so expensive? They had better be good at $24 for a 12ax7!!!
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Post by Capt_Tippy » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:04 am

They are. You could get the same tubes for less money, but you'd have to buy 3 sets to find the good ones. They send you the good ones on the 1st go. sooo it is what it is so to speak.

Usually I say "don't pay upcharges" (see my sig) but this... its kind of like an upcharge, but in this case you actually get the good tubes... usually upcharges are total BS and they count on the fact that you cant check the lame assed s*&t they are selling you.

When you buy a set of matched 6L6's of these you GET a matched set of BADASS 6L6's.
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Post by Ripleyripley » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:02 pm

Is anyone finding that changing the preamp tubes in a Module has a significant impact on the tone or is it negligible at best?

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Post by Ripleyripley » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:41 pm

And if it is a noticeable difference, does anyone have a recommendation?

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Post by Mike P » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:21 pm

JKD wrote:ARS..they are re-branded Chinese tubes by the looks of it.

v1 looks like a JJ ECC83 and the other maybe a 12axc9
They’re made in China to the ARS standards. They’ve been the most popular tubes in the Los Angeles scene for decades and they’re standard in amps built by Friedman, Voodoo Amps and many others.

They’re the only preamp tubes I use.
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Post by tnjazz » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:50 am

Mike P wrote:
They’re made in China to the ARS standards. They’ve been the most popular tubes in the Los Angeles scene for decades and they’re standard in amps built by Friedman, Voodoo Amps and many others.

They’re the only preamp tubes I use.
Interesting. I admit for many years I engaged in tube snobbery, and immediately replaced any Chinese tube in any gear I bought with at the very least a JJ, if not a nice vintage Tungsram or EI from my stash. What I've found recently is that a lot of the MTS gear actually sounds more defined with the ARS tubes than it does with the "quality" stuff. I've adjusted my thinking accordingly...!
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