SYN-50 vs Mod 50 heads

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9985
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SYN-50 vs Mod 50 heads

Post by 9985 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:15 pm

Is there any argument to get a used Mod 50 over a used SYN-50 head, assuming similar condition & price? The SYN-50 has the onboard non-modular clean channel & XLR cab sim line out, Mod 50 has 2 loops (series & parallel), which I don't see as much of a plus.

EDIT: as was pointed out below- the onboard clean is only in the SYN-30, not the SYN-50.
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Re: SYN-50 vs Mod 50 heads

Post by Mike P » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:01 pm

My experience has been that the Synergy modules sound WAY better in Synergy Preamps/Amps than either my RM100 or RM20
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Re: SYN-50 vs Mod 50 heads

Post by webrthomson » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:07 am

The Mod50 does not have the cathode switching which the SYN50 does. The Mod50 does have support for tubes other than 6L6's, Synergy are very unforthcoming about the SYN-50 supporting tubes other than 6L6's.

The Syn-30 has onboard clean, the Syn-50 does not have that feature.

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Re: SYN-50 vs Mod 50 heads

Post by 9985 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:55 pm

thanks for clarifying the onboard clean- bummer they didn't include on the SYN-50.
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Re: SYN-50 vs Mod 50 heads

Post by webrthomson » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:23 am

9985 wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:55 pm
thanks for clarifying the onboard clean- bummer they didn't include on the SYN-50.
Sure is - looks very like the Friedman simple clean on the SYN30 - nice idea though!

Shame to lose a slot to a clean module, but the Friedman BB/BE looks interesting in that respect as it's clean on side dirty the other :)

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Re: SYN-50 vs Mod 50 heads

Post by lebobl » Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:53 pm

So, has anyone specifically used the Synergy SLO with the Mod50 or Mod100? I am wondering if you can EQ it to where it will still sound great, since it sounds like the cathode bias is just a shelving for the bass and treble frequencies. Thanks!
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Re: SYN-50 vs Mod 50 heads

Post by GtrGear » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:14 am

Personally I prefer the poweramp of the MOD-series over the Synergy.
If you are liking the Synergy preamps which are designed for the non-Fender cathode select switch
you have to stick to the Synergy (pre)amp because of the cathode switch.

Maybe a SYN-2 preamp and a poweramp of your choice is an alternative?
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Re: SYN-50 vs Mod 50 heads

Post by ned » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:57 pm

Once the house move is complete I can put my Synergy SLO in my Mod50 and/or dual modded RM4.
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Re: SYN-50 vs Mod 50 heads

Post by lebobl » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:06 pm

Cool, thanks! Let me know what you think. Seriously contemplating shipping my amp to Rob at Jaded Faith for the 3 way manual cathode bias mod.
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Re: SYN-50 vs Mod 50 heads

Post by lebobl » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:41 am

So, got a great Black Friday deal on the Synergy SLO. Love it! It sounds pretty similar to my Mr. Scary, though I actually like the crunch channel, which is less compressed, a bit more.

Wondering if the cathode bias might tighten up the bass even more and bring out more sparkle versus the standard Fender circuit on the Mod 100.
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Re: SYN-50 vs Mod 50 heads

Post by notyet » Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:22 am

Try an EQ pedal in front of the amp and see if rolling off the lows a bit tightens it right up.

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