Which TYPES of amps do you think are best represented? Which compromises make modules the hardest to replicate?

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nickerz
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Which TYPES of amps do you think are best represented? Which compromises make modules the hardest to replicate?

Post by nickerz » Thu May 07, 2020 1:02 pm

For instance, the saggy and distinct poweramp of the Recto, makes a RM100 w/ a recto module much closer to a weak SLO. The powerful and stiff power section of the SLO makes the SLO module like stiffer Recto.

Do you feel the RM100 system is really best suited for Marshall inspired circuits?

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Re: Which TYPES of amps do you think are best represented? Which compromises make modules the hardest to replicate?

Post by lebobl » Thu May 07, 2020 8:08 pm

If you're talking about the power section exclusively, you can vastly vary the feel and tone by the power tubes you put in and how you adjust your bias. 6550s will be harder and colder, 6V6s and EL34s can be rounder and more compressed.

A hotter bias will give you more compression, whereas if you bias it cold it will feel stiffer. Therefore, it is my opinion that the RM100 power amp doesn't have to be cold or stiff necessarily.

I think some of the sterile feel can come from the presence and depth circuit, unless it is fog lifted. The stock controls are not very usable in tuning the power amp.

So if you want to change the feel, you can always experiment with the power tubes and the bias, and consider an upgrade to the foglifter or even foglifter plus circuit. You may like the results!
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Re: Which TYPES of amps do you think are best represented? Which compromises make modules the hardest to replicate?

Post by nickerz » Fri May 08, 2020 3:34 am

I was able to find this answer by accident. It looks like all SUPERLEAD derivatives should be spot on. Appreciate your response. That does add to it too.

e.g. 2203ZW vs standard 2203 is just the tubes and some graphics!

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Re: Which TYPES of amps do you think are best represented? Which compromises make modules the hardest to replicate?

Post by lebobl » Sat May 09, 2020 9:55 am

I would have thought it to be Fender modules actually since the input gain stage has the Fender cathode bias circuit.
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Re: Which TYPES of amps do you think are best represented? Which compromises make modules the hardest to replicate?

Post by nickerz » Sat May 09, 2020 12:09 pm

That would be me projecting again.... since I would only rock it with the selector switch. IMO this pretty clearly shows why the fender\mesa stuff struggles. Been reading about the Onetics guy as well who offers essentially 5 transformer types. So I think for this platform to have been done "perfect" they'd have needed 5 different hosts, not to mention the different power ratings.

Laney stuff should work out great too, just Marshall modules with fender input ;p

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