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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:58 am    Post subject: Talk to me about the JF Vox Reply with quote

Does it do the spanky and clean high end crunch like the real amp (or close enough to it?) I find a lot of MTS mods can sound the same or dialed in the same. I am looking for something to track along with my JCM800 and I can't obviously afford the real deal (or would want to seeing as I primarily play my 800). I would love if this could fill that sonic need. Plan is to run it light crunch and let the MArshall handle the grunt. Really fill out the sound I am hoping.

Another question I have, is whether any of you who have it, have noticed big differences in the power tubes you run with it. for example, would this be better suited to something like a 6L6?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed Just noticed another thread below mine already on this subject...sorry folks, i should spend more time reading!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW- I had the Twox for a little bit. I thought it was the cleanest of all the modded mods. I thought it did better cleans than the matchvox.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does it sound like an AC30? clean and dirty?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

withmittens wrote:
does it sound like an AC30? clean and dirty?


It doesn't do dirty. Clean is as close as MTS has gotten
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not sure what the purpose would be then, as the edge of breakup into light distortion IS the Vox sound after early Beatles.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which Vox module are we talking about? The original Voxless was primarily a dirty module which was really a tweaked version of the stock Egnater/Randall stock takes on Vox with a few options added. The Twox used a completely different signal flow to get pristine cleans the Voxless couldn't do. The current VX30 is on of my favorite mods I have ever built and essentially behaves just like my personal AC30 with Mercury Haddon-style transformers. It's one of my favorite amps I have ever owned.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob, of course I know nothing of your personal AC30. What I was saying is that THE Vox sound we all know and love from classic rock from the 60's to about the end of 90's, before the "modern" sound took over is the edge of breakup & Top Boost crunchy VOX sound on thousands of records.....excluding Queen...

I was just asking Rossness that if it doesn't do that and only clean then what it is purposed to do, specifically. If it's a crystal clean VOX sound I think many folks may not know how to put it to work since various cleans available and one doesn't seem to seek a pristine clean AC30 sound. Even early Beatles has a bit of gnarl on the guitars.

Maybe I don't understand
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

withmittens wrote:
Rob, of course I know nothing of your personal AC30. What I was saying is that THE Vox sound we all know and love from classic rock from the 60's to about the end of 90's, before the "modern" sound took over is the edge of breakup & Top Boost crunchy VOX sound on thousands of records.....excluding Queen...

I was just asking Rossness that if it doesn't do that and only clean then what it is purposed to do, specifically. If it's a crystal clean VOX sound I think many folks may not know how to put it to work since various cleans available and one doesn't seem to seek a pristine clean AC30 sound. Even early Beatles has a bit of gnarl on the guitars.

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My personal Vox is the same circuit-wise as any you would buy at a store. I upgraded the iron to Haddon-style (think the Beatles, The Edge, Tom Petty AC30's) and used a pair of Celestion Creamback M's. I tried Golds and Blues in there as well, but didn't like either once the gain was beyond slightly crunchy. It's just a great sounding AC30 in the vein of what you would expect of it.

Rossness was speaking about the Twox, which was it's own animal. It used some unique designs and was really more of a hybrid Fender/Vox than an AC30. It's been discontinued for at least two years now.

The current VX30 is very true to what you would expect of a real AC30. Hope that helps.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that makes more sense. my confusion. thanks for clearing that up

the problem I've had with two variations of Vox mods Ive had is that the underlying woolly warmth and prominent lower mids lack the presence of the amp.. possibly because the highs are either diminished and get lost in the sound or the highs are shrill and thin out the entire signal This causes the warmth to overpower the snap and makes for a rather dull sound. The best I've come to getting the sound is almost entirely backing off the treble, dialing Cut to allow high end, and dialing the Bass nearly all the way up. This still doesn't do it

The AC30 amps that I've played have both going on simultaneously and allow for a large sound a lot of bite.

the real test for a VOX sound is the edge of breakup area where warmth, snap and power all come together to make that distinct sound

I know, I know...words do nothing. If anyone wants to lend me their VX30 I'd love to check it out. I know my current SuperVox is ok but not all that great. I've be interested in modding it further into something
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New to the forum. Great information. Thanks!
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