If I ever cme across some ruby's I'll try them....I know that rubby's sounded like crap in my 5150II but all amps respond to the same tubes differently. Right now I got some pretty beefy tone out of a Tungsol and 2 Mesa 12AX7's in there now, but like I say, I can't put it on the Tight setting because then it sounds like single coils. The bright switch does a little bit better. I think I just need a couple of solid hours to tinker with it some more, but it is very easy to just turn it on and get a great sound. Just need to tweek tweek tweek to get my sound. I know part of the problem is I think I still have 5150II tone in my ears and I need to adjust to this totally different animal.
Thanks again for everything. That's cool you guys have my message poseed up in the office. You guys rock.